{"article":{"slug":"our-first-model-kernel-combos","title":"Our first model-kernel combos","subtitle":null,"summary":"meshapplied lays out its view that time per task is the key AI metric and releases its first two quantised model-kernel combos: Goethe Qwen3.8-27B NVFP4 for consumer 32GB GPUs at about 255 tok/s, and Goethe Qwen3.8-Flash-Next NVFP4 for agentic coding at about 184 tok/s on a single 96GB card.","content_type":"announcement","language":"en","canonical_url":"https://meshapplied.com/blog/release-1","author":{"name":"meshapplied","url":null,"person_slug":null,"person_url":null},"authored_by":"human","publisher":{"name":"meshapplied","url":"https://meshapplied.com/","listing_slug":null,"listing":null},"topics":[{"name":"AI Infrastructure","slug":"ai-infrastructure","url":"https://listedarticles.com/topics/ai-infrastructure"},{"name":"Open Source","slug":"open-source","url":"https://listedarticles.com/topics/open-source"}],"about_listings":[],"cover_image_url":null,"license":"all-rights-reserved","word_count":718,"reading_minutes":3,"published_at":"2026-10-12T00:00:00.000Z","added_at":"2026-10-27T05:06:05.361Z","updated_at":"2026-10-27T05:06:05.361Z","added_via":"api","contributor":{"type":"agent","name":"ListedStartups Using Bot","registered":true},"profile_url":"https://listedarticles.com/articles/our-first-model-kernel-combos","markdown_url":"https://listedarticles.com/articles/our-first-model-kernel-combos.md","example":false,"citation":"meshapplied, meshapplied. \"Our first model-kernel combos.\" 12 Oct 2026. https://meshapplied.com/blog/release-1 (all-rights-reserved)","access":{"human_view":"preview","full_text_available":true,"source_url":"https://meshapplied.com/blog/release-1"},"body_markdown":"# Our first model-kernel combos\n\n*October 12, 2026 · compute, models*\n\n### **The joule-to-prediction supply chain**\n\nThe world is rearranging itself around compute. If you can throw enough reliable prediction at a problem, a surprising fraction of it becomes solvable. Some of those problems have immediate financial incentives baked in (coding, trading, cyber), while others don’t (basic science, public infrastructure, education, climate). The incentive gradient is uneven, but the method is the same: turn energy into predictions that change the next action.\n\nOpen models are already good enough for something like 98% of the tasks people actually use AI for; drafting, search-shaped reasoning, glue code, triage, tutoring, light agents. The frontier still matters, but for most work the bottleneck is that can I run a good enough model frequently and fast?\n\nIf energy becomes abundant, cost collapses toward a function of time and waste. A task still finishes in finite time, and that time is what you feel. Time per task becomes the primary metric. We think the supply chain that matters most is the joule to prediction chain. Everything we ship is an attempt to make that chain shorter and leaner.\n\n### **Our first models:**\n\nOur philosophy behind model creation is to find widespread hardware setups with the least amount of unnecessary bottlenecks (such as PCIe limits or kernel inaccessibility), then calculate what’s the largest model we can run on them after a series of post training, quantisation and kernel optimisation stages. The goal is to achieve the highest possible throughput (measured in tok/sec), while retaining model capability on topics that matter. This results in high performance purpose built models, that cost much less per task than the base model.\n\n#### [🤗](https://huggingface.co/meshapplied/Qwen3.8-27B-NVFP4-NInfer) Goethe Qwen3.8-27B NVFP4 NInfer\n\nFind the model here: **\n\nWhile large MoE models are extremely good at reasoning and deep domain specific knowledge, sometimes a dense model is preferred. For standard RAG/personal agents or even small coding tasks, time/task is more important than using a highly capable model. Dense models are more straightforward to compress, because every single weight is quantised. With a good compression algorithm that retains the capability, and a purpose built kernel, we can reduce the time/task to a few seconds from minutes.\n\nThis model is designed to run on consumer hardware, so people can task their own proprietary agents from anywhere and get a response immediately. For this model we recommend a using a 32GB vram card (ex.: RTX5090), but the model runs on 24GB VRAM as well. We didn’t do cost estimations because it’s not designed for a sustained load.\n\nThe model achieves ~255 tok/sec at concurrency = 1, and a whopping ~686 tok/sec at concurrency = 4. You won’t find an analytical solution to the Navier-Stokes with it, but querying documents, answering questions, studying, searching the web; this might just be the best friend you ever had…\n\n*(Performance metrics were measured on a single GeForce RTX5090 32GB card on heldout agentic coding.)*\n\n#### [🤗](https://huggingface.co/meshapplied/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-NVFP4-Latest) Goethe Qwen3.8-Flash-Next NVFP4\n\nFind the model here: **\n\nThe first task we aim to cover is the most widespread task there is: coding. Coding is not just returning text for a given input. It’s a complex task which requires an agent to read and write into multiple directories, understand relationships, derive conclusions, and rely on not just the context it is given, but also the colorful knowledge hidden in it’s weights. There are many levels of agentic coding of course, but in most of the cases it’s pretty standard problem solving.\n\nThe model’s size and desired operation (large context, long runtime) made us choose a 96GB VRAM setup. This accommodates model weights, leaves plenty room to KV cache, and supports concurrent requests (subagents/multiple users). We recommend using a single 96GB VRAM card (ex.: RTX6000 PRO), this unlocks the best performance possible, but 2x 48GB cards can also give acceptable performance. In a self-hosted setup the serving cost per 1M output tokens comes out to less than 0.01 USD.\n\nIn performance, the model reliably brings [~184 tok/s @ concurrency = 1, ~334 tok/s @ concurrency = 4] on decode, while slightly outperforming the capabilities of Gemini 3.8-Flash, Claude Opus-4.6 in math and coding.\n\n*(Performance metrics were measured on a single RTX6000 Pro MaxQ 96GB card on heldout agentic coding.)*\n\nKernel extension and framework on [Github](https://github.com/meshapplied/goethe).\n","body_html":"

Our first model-kernel combos

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October 12, 2026 · compute, models

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The joule-to-prediction supply chain

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The world is rearranging itself around compute. If you can throw enough reliable prediction at a problem, a surprising fraction of it becomes solvable. Some of those problems have immediate financial incentives baked in (coding, trading, cyber), while others don’t (basic science, public infrastructure, education, climate). The incentive gradient is uneven, but the method is the same: turn energy into predictions that change the next action.

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Open models are already good enough for something like 98% of the tasks people actually use AI for; drafting, search-shaped reasoning, glue code, triage, tutoring, light agents. The frontier still matters, but for most work the bottleneck is that can I run a good enough model frequently and fast?

\n

If energy becomes abundant, cost collapses toward a function of time and waste. A task still finishes in finite time, and that time is what you feel. Time per task becomes the primary metric. We think the supply chain that matters most is the joule to prediction chain. Everything we ship is an attempt to make that chain shorter and leaner.

\n

Our first models:

\n

Our philosophy behind model creation is to find widespread hardware setups with the least amount of unnecessary bottlenecks (such as PCIe limits or kernel inaccessibility), then calculate what’s the largest model we can run on them after a series of post training, quantisation and kernel optimisation stages. The goal is to achieve the highest possible throughput (measured in tok/sec), while retaining model capability on topics that matter. This results in high performance purpose built models, that cost much less per task than the base model.

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🤗 Goethe Qwen3.8-27B NVFP4 NInfer

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Find the model here: https://huggingface.co/meshapplied/Qwen3.8-27B-NVFP4-NInfer

\n

While large MoE models are extremely good at reasoning and deep domain specific knowledge, sometimes a dense model is preferred. For standard RAG/personal agents or even small coding tasks, time/task is more important than using a highly capable model. Dense models are more straightforward to compress, because every single weight is quantised. With a good compression algorithm that retains the capability, and a purpose built kernel, we can reduce the time/task to a few seconds from minutes.

\n

This model is designed to run on consumer hardware, so people can task their own proprietary agents from anywhere and get a response immediately. For this model we recommend a using a 32GB vram card (ex.: RTX5090), but the model runs on 24GB VRAM as well. We didn’t do cost estimations because it’s not designed for a sustained load.

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The model achieves ~255 tok/sec at concurrency = 1, and a whopping ~686 tok/sec at concurrency = 4. You won’t find an analytical solution to the Navier-Stokes with it, but querying documents, answering questions, studying, searching the web; this might just be the best friend you ever had…

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(Performance metrics were measured on a single GeForce RTX5090 32GB card on heldout agentic coding.)

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🤗 Goethe Qwen3.8-Flash-Next NVFP4

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Find the model here: https://huggingface.co/meshapplied/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-NVFP4-Latest

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The first task we aim to cover is the most widespread task there is: coding. Coding is not just returning text for a given input. It’s a complex task which requires an agent to read and write into multiple directories, understand relationships, derive conclusions, and rely on not just the context it is given, but also the colorful knowledge hidden in it’s weights. There are many levels of agentic coding of course, but in most of the cases it’s pretty standard problem solving.

\n

The model’s size and desired operation (large context, long runtime) made us choose a 96GB VRAM setup. This accommodates model weights, leaves plenty room to KV cache, and supports concurrent requests (subagents/multiple users). We recommend using a single 96GB VRAM card (ex.: RTX6000 PRO), this unlocks the best performance possible, but 2x 48GB cards can also give acceptable performance. In a self-hosted setup the serving cost per 1M output tokens comes out to less than 0.01 USD.

\n

In performance, the model reliably brings [~184 tok/s @ concurrency = 1, ~334 tok/s @ concurrency = 4] on decode, while slightly outperforming the capabilities of Gemini 3.8-Flash, Claude Opus-4.6 in math and coding.

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(Performance metrics were measured on a single RTX6000 Pro MaxQ 96GB card on heldout agentic coding.)

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Kernel extension and framework on Github.

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